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LAPLANT
06-20-2007, 07:54 PM
WHAT IS YALLS OPINION ON RUDES
I HAVE ALWAYS HAD MERCS
HAD A BOAT CATCH MY EYE THAT HAS A RUDE ON IT

BRIAN S
06-20-2007, 09:23 PM
I LOVE EVINRUDE ALMOST AS MUCH AS I LOVE WOMEN WHEN THEY DONT NAG!! ANYWAY I HAVE HAD A 9.9 H.P., 15 H.P., 100 H.P., 120 H.P. AND NOW A 200 H.P. ALL EVINRUDE/JOHNSON AND I LOVE THEM. PART OF THE REASON I GUESS THAT I STAY WITH EVINRUDE/JOHNSON IS THE MAIN MARINA ON LAKE GEORGE N.Y. IS A CERTIFIED EVINRUDE DEALER AND IT IS VERY EASY TO GET PARTS.

Chris
06-20-2007, 10:03 PM
They're all great when they're runnin'....

And they're all crap when they aint.

Is it time for the EB outboard powerplant poll? :D

Chris E
06-21-2007, 12:08 AM
brian is right on the money - you love the motor you can get parts for fastest - for me that's merc - 1 day for instock items.

LAPLANT
06-21-2007, 12:44 PM
I HAVE CERTIFIED DEALERS FOR BOTH SO PARTS AREN'T A ISSUE
THAT BEING SAID ANY MORE OPINIONS

175checkmate
06-21-2007, 01:34 PM
Always been kind of merc guys. Never owned the white one.

Boston Predictor
06-21-2007, 06:54 PM
Ive owned dozens or mercs big and small, and dozens of OMC's and both have been great. I find that the OMC's start better and you can run them to forever with little problems. I have one 90hp OMC right now with 90psi in one cylinder and it still starts right up and moves the predictor at just over 28 knots. Ive got another 1980 something 40hp OMC that can really pull when it needs to. that motor is great. The OMC's are definitely workhorses and will stand the test of time. Ive had more problems with mercury although I have had some great mercs too. Im having some fuel delivery issues with my 1987 OMC V8 right now but it was running mint before that and is probably something minor.
Like Chris said, both are good when they are running and a POS when not:p :brickwall::cheers:

BRIAN S
06-23-2007, 01:23 AM
HEY CHRIS DO A POLL!!!!!!!!! THE FIRST POLL.......... DO IT!!!!!!!!:brickwall::bounce::bigthumb::devil::thu mb::surf::drool::D DO IT DO IT DO IT.................................

Chris
06-23-2007, 07:24 PM
Guys, give me the list of brands you want included.

When we did the original poll on the Check site, we had limited poll options.

Now we can have a lot more.

Run down your brands and I'll put the poll together. :)

BRIAN S
06-23-2007, 07:29 PM
EVINRUDE :thumb:

Chris
06-23-2007, 11:10 PM
Let's see if this list works...

Johnson/Evinrude/BRP
Mercury/Mariner
Yamaha
Honda
Nissan
Suzuki
Tohatsu
Force

Does that list work?

BRIAN S
06-24-2007, 12:02 PM
I THINK THAT LIST WORKS :thumb:

Chris
06-24-2007, 01:48 PM
The poll is up fellas! :thumb:

I made this one public so we can see who likes what. :)

Boston Predictor
06-26-2007, 12:01 AM
sorry guys but Ive always had a soft spot for the black max

LAPLANT
06-27-2007, 03:17 PM
THIS IS GREAT I AM HONORED THAT ONE OF MY THREADS STARTED THE FIRST POLL ON THE NEW BOARD:thumb:

1Mate1
07-02-2007, 09:17 AM
My family has had 4 Evinrudes and 2 Mercs since I've been on the planet and they are both good motors- anyone who says otherwise about either is just plain wrong. Each maunfacturer has had problems with certain models/designs over the years- no one is perfect. We've had much fewer (2 - 1 major, 1 minor) problems with the Evinrudes than the Mercs (4 - 3 Major, 1 minor) and that's over 45 yrs. of Evinrude ownership and 5 yrs of Merc ownership. My 1964 5.5 H.P. Evinrude runs like new today, my 1976 Evinrude 9.9 ran like new( even at -5 degrees C) until it was stolen 4 yrs. ago and my 1979 Evinrude 85 H.P. has never given me a problem, runs like wildfire and gets really good gas mileage at 2500-3500 R.P.M.'s. The only thing I don't like about it is that it smokes a lot on start-up, typical of the motors of the day. I like my 1990 Merc 15H.P., it's fast ,starts easily, but does NOT have the torque of my 1976 Evinrude 9.9 H.P. My 1970 Merc 20 H.P. was good too, but what a bitch to start if it didn't fire on the 1st or 2nd pull ! It really drank gas for a small motor.
So when Armageddon comes, I'll jump in the boat that has the Evinrude on it.:thumb:

Chris
07-02-2007, 11:35 AM
Welcome to the board 1Mate1. :)

Chris E
07-02-2007, 11:26 PM
i voted yamaha, personally of all the motors that came through the various dealerships i worked at, never saw a blown yamaha. lots of mercs, lots of omcs, not one yamaha - would i buy one, don't know, probably still go black - only because parts are quick to get.

my brother in law works for suzuki - let me tell you - they are a fantastic engine - smooth - powerful, but they need a larger dealer network before they'll see any inroads in canada.

Chris
07-03-2007, 12:04 AM
I think Suzuki were making most of the 4 stroke Evinrude motors before the ETEC came along.

With the two stroke Johnson's just about finished, I think Suzuki is making inroads in the old OMC dealer network in the small engine category.

Personally, I've had great luck with all my small motors be them black or white.

With the big motors, I've never had any luck at all with any white motors and great luck with the black ones.

Personally, I like my Mercs and that's pretty well all I'll buy. :)

LAPLANT
08-31-2007, 12:34 AM
after all the input and many sleepless nights i have decided i am a merc man:devil:

Chris
02-24-2008, 06:05 PM
The poll here is a lot closer than the one we had on the Check forums.

Interesting.

LIQUID NIRVANA
04-11-2008, 04:37 AM
http://inlinethumb22.webshots.com/24725/2225200440101354590S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2225200440101354590SfPfVR)

LIQUID NIRVANA
04-11-2008, 04:51 AM
The VIDEO that gives an overview of the HERITAGE of EVINRUDE - ELTO and the EVINRUDE E-Tec. The first century:- 1909 - 2009 Centenary

Click on the url below

http://rides.webshots.com/video/3003199350101354590eznsAz?vhost=rides

EVOLUTION to the REVOLUTION

benski
08-18-2008, 03:46 PM
:DHere's my .02. I've run outboards commercially for over 30 years, and I've developed a fondness for Evinrude/Johnson, mostly because of parts availabilty nationwide, I love the Mercury big motors especially the I-6's for that wonderful howl that they have at full speed, they also seem to be quite durable, and most recently, (last 10 years or so,) I really like how civilized the OB's from Yamaha and Honda are. The 4 strokes are the wave of the future, and everyone is making them, but I really like the level of refinement on the late Hondas and Yamahas. Parts and availability? Not as good..prices? All this stuff for what it is, is as bad as going to a Mercedes Benz dealership, it seems like.:irked: My current motors in my stable of boats? A 150 V-6 Suzuki, pretty bulletproof but THIRSTY:yikes:, and a 115 Merc Tower of Power, with that fabulous Mercury howl I alluded to above.
To sum it up, if it runs and stays running, it's a great motor. In the poll, I voted for Honda.:cheers:

Chris
08-18-2008, 06:24 PM
:DHere's my .02. I've run outboards commercially for over 30 years, and I've developed a fondness for Evinrude/Johnson, mostly because of parts availabilty nationwide, I love the Mercury big motors especially the I-6's for that wonderful howl that they have at full speed, they also seem to be quite durable, and most recently, (last 10 years or so,) I really like how civilized the OB's from Yamaha and Honda are. The 4 strokes are the wave of the future, and everyone is making them, but I really like the level of refinement on the late Hondas and Yamahas. Parts and availability? Not as good..prices? All this stuff for what it is, is as bad as going to a Mercedes Benz dealership, it seems like.:irked: My current motors in my stable of boats? A 150 V-6 Suzuki, pretty bulletproof but THIRSTY:yikes:, and a 115 Merc Tower of Power, with that fabulous Mercury howl I alluded to above.
To sum it up, if it runs and stays running, it's a great motor. In the poll, I voted for Honda.:cheers:Welcome to the board Benski - nice to have you aboard and thanks for joining up. :)

You pretty much summed it up. I've always had great luck with Merc myself, so that's what I like. But the bottom line I believe, is if it's running, it's the greatest thing since slice bread - and if it isn't running, then it sucks.

-Chris

steven
01-22-2009, 07:27 AM
well iv been around mercs and rudes alot and well rudes are more reliable but harder to modified and mercs run better and are easier to get more power out of but are less reliable. but as in any thing its all got to do with how u run it and how u take care of it.

JUPITER PULSARE
01-23-2009, 05:27 PM
This battle has been going on for years. I'm still a fan of the Dark Side. The resale on products with Mercury power seems to be higher than Evinrude/Johnson and the wide variety of aftermarket performance parts for Mercs is outstanding.

Enticer1
01-30-2009, 01:07 PM
Last sunday I had a starting issue and and a Big Fat JohnnyRude pulled me to a dock for a looksee. I'll never give up my Black girl but I won't ever Bad Mouth a white motor again. We need diversity to keep things intresting.

Chris
01-30-2009, 09:50 PM
Kewl. :thumb:

-Chris

eaglejim
02-25-2009, 01:14 AM
gota love the rudes

Chris
02-25-2009, 05:31 PM
gota love the rudesAre you a 'rude man jim? :)

-Chris

hillbilly.tim85
03-24-2009, 01:19 AM
hey chris a quick note on your poll yamaha has built most of mercs 4 stroke powerheads through 2004

Boat Tech
06-19-2009, 05:18 AM
It might be time for a stern drive poll:D I would have voted honda because they seem to brake less over all, But they are a little bit harder to find and get parts for when they do go down. But also now a days we need to try our best to keep the $$$ close to home as much as we can.

redbull760
04-06-2010, 12:36 AM
I hate Johnson/Evinrude. I have had a 200hp 225hp 9.9hp and a 70hp i dont know if ive been unlucky but i have had nothing but trouble with all of them. They seem to be poor starters and run rough no mater what you do to them? and no matter how old they are. The 225 was only 5years old when i bought it cost me thousands and took months for the mechanic to get it running anywhere near how it should.

I have had 3 Merc's a 200hp 150hp and a 50hp and never had a problem with any of them. Always run well and strong. The best was the 150 Black Max which was also the oldest engine i have ever owned.

I have a Suzuki 200hp at the moment which is a 98 and that has a few problems. I only bought it becauce i really liked the boat. Might be going back to the mighty Merc!!!!

Mobile-Repairman
04-12-2010, 09:27 PM
OMC 4 sure! Mercs are too finicky.

capt
08-09-2011, 07:49 PM
I have owned 2 mercs 1 evinrude
i really can't say which i like more
but the 'rude was more slughish on start up then the merc

Will Switzer
09-01-2011, 03:24 AM
All my boats are merc powered . Starting with my 1960 Crosby with a 1960 Merc 400 45hp . My 2005 Bennington pontoon has a 60hp merc bigfoot 4 stroke . My 1976 Checkmate Trimate II 150hp Merc inline six. My Checkmate V-Mate I Will have a Merc 150hp inline six on it . And last but not least My 1969 Checkmate V-141 has a Merc 80hp inline 4 . Along with numours other mercs I have Dating all the way back to 1946 and they start right up .... Only a Merc for me :thumb: